The cartridge is available in bullet weights of 36 to 80 grains. 0 gr with H4350 in 30-06 using a 165 gr sierra HPBT. The .35 Rem. Today, the .35 Rem. Typically, groups with each rifle are fired for record by three or four Guns and Shooting Online staffers and/or contributors. Introduced earlier this year, the 17 Fireball is based on a .221 Fireball necked down to 17 caliber. Loads are also listed for the .219 Zipper and .225 Winchester, which are rarely seen in the varmint fields these days. Id say that is darn good accuracy for a cartridge invented in 1906. If so, look no further than the .17 Remington calibre, which has been overrated by some and written off by others. (Ret.) Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. Then there are always the cases from fired factory loads. CCI BR-4. When I prepare for the spring gopher campaign, I load a big batch of .223s with this powder and 40-grain bullets. The 220-grain bullet clocked 2,131 fps over 43.0 grains of LVR. When both are loaded to maximum chamber pressures and fired in barrels of the same length, the Ackley cartridge is about 100 fps faster. That pair shot five bullets well under .5 inch the best the old Swift rifle has shot any load. The smallest cartridge was the .25-35 Winchester, which preceded the .30-30 Winchester by a few months, both of which were introduced in 1895. The Mossberg 500 Pump Action Shotgun is one of the most popular home defense shotguns on the market. 6.8 Western To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. The CZ 7.62x39 grouped three Hornady 123-grain Spire Point bullets in .69 inch with LT-32 and into 1.05 inches shooting LT-30. We show you how. Most .17 caliber bullets are much lighter than those of .22 caliber, and that makes them greatly dependent on high velocities for quick kills on varmints. The .223 Remington is America's favorite cartridge according to rifle and ammunition sales. loads, this is obviously very accurate factory loaded ammunition. When it comes down to velocity, the .17 Rem. Shooting 20 of those cartridges is enough fun for a day. the .17 HMR cartridge is very susceptible to the effects of wind, we Twenty-five-grain bullet weights are the standard factory offering, but I use 20-grain and 25-grain Hornady V-Max bullets with good results. Well, the reasons are simple. You find 3 loads in caliber .17 Rem. Just think of where it has been, the game it has taken, and the hours of shooting enjoyment it has provided over the decades. This concludes with an average overall group size for all types of ammunition. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. And which possesses a flat trajectory with a very small risk of ricochets, combined with little recoil? * We tested two different Marlin Model 917VS and Ruger K77/17VMBBZ rifles. leaves the others choking on its dust. H-4350 shot the bullets 98 fps faster than Accurate and 43 fps faster than IMR. While velocities with this stick powder lagged a bit behind the LVR loads, accuracy in the Model 336 was 0.67 inch with the Speer 180-grain SPFN and 0.83 inch with the Hornady 200-grain FTX. Barnes-X bullet. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. These bullets fired slightly at a velocity above 1,600 fps are pretty much at full-power from the Marlins 18.5-inch barrel stiff recoil verified it. Finally, beware of reduced loads, as we want to make sure that all bullets make it out of the barrel. Parker Otto Ackley wore many different hats. We will continue to update this list as new rifles are reviewed and additional data becomes available. When developing its version of the .17 Hornet, Hornady shortened the .22 Hornet case about 0.050 inch to make overall cartridge length compatible with the magazines of existing rifles in .22 Hornet. If my 57-year-old eyes are clear that day. 3100 fps. Accurate 2230 is a fast-burning, double-base powder. 1-9/16"; mean average group = 1-1/4". RifleShooter Magazine editor Scott Rupp breaks down all the features of the Mossberg Patriot Predator rifle chambered in 6.5 PRC. It started promoting the powders and providing updated load data in its Western Powders Reloading & Load Data Guide, and Accurate powders have grown in popularity. Beth Shimanski of Savage introduces their all new straight-pull rifle. 223 Remington: 52 grain Berger MEF bullets, LaPua brass, Federal 205 M (match) primers and H 335 powder. : 41,500 50,400 CUP Groups were measured from center to center of the The .44 Remington Magnum is an adaptable cartridge when fired from a handgun. Accuracy, again, is phenomenal, 0.5in or better at 100 yards. If the rifle is accurate, one really has to be "off the playing field" to assemble handloads that won't shoot. Hornady bullets registered 2,454 fps burning 51.5 grains of the powder from the 22-inch barrel of a Remington Model 700 Whelen. loads we compared for this article. hotter than the one listed in the 1st post and hope to be getting approx. Greetings. It is important to note that the SAAMI maximum average pressure (MAP) of the .35 Rem. It never failed, allways shot them behind the shoulder. course of chronographing the five types of ammunition. Bought 100 pieces of Norma brass to load with. It can be loaded in the .22 Hornet and in the .223 Remington with 55-grain and lighter bullets. Accuracy was great, but velocity was slower than with other powders. The V-Maxs are my all-time favourite, they shoot flat, are accurate and humanely despatch the quarry like nothing else. the average group size between 1.125 MOA and 1.531 MOA across all five security jobs paying $30 an hour; most accurate 17 remington load I'll be trying a load .5 gr. of Israeli Defense Forces, joins David Fortier for an exclusive interview for Shotgun News. smaller (3-5/16" diameter) bullseyes on each target, which we thought These powders were originally intended for target shooters, but the two powders also work well in small-game cartridges. The .17 HMR loads we use include ammunition from CCI with 17 grain TNT bullet, CCI A17 with 17 grain Varmint Tip bullet, Federal Premium with 17 grain TNT bullet, Federal Premium with 17 grain V-MAX bullet, Hornady with 17 grain V-MAX bullet, Remington Premier with 17 grain AccuTip-V bullet and Winchester Supreme with 17 grain V-MAX bullet. less than 1 percent with most loads. It is my fox calibre/combination of choice and, when fed 25 grains of my beloved RL15, that elongated needle of a projectile steps out just shy of the 4,000fps mark at 3,975fps still good enough. Most factory ammo features 50gr to 60gr projectiles.The 22-250 Remington Load Data for Peregrine Bullets is made available to enhance accuracy and consistency for the rifle connoisseur. Regardless, it was a foolish stunt. CCI TNT: smallest group 1/2"; largest group 2-1/4"; Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. We fired 10 shots per load over the Guns I always have space for at least one .17 Remington rifle because, for sub-200-yard fox and varmint shooting, I can think of no other faster, effective and safe round. Learn about Precision Shooting, Accurate Reloading, and advanced shooting skills for competition, hunting, varminting, and tactical shooting. : 2.150" Powder: 24.1 gr 25.9 gr Vel. The .223 is inexpensive, easy to use well, low recoiling, and often very accurate even with military ball-type ammunition. Groups were nice round clusters, not two here and three there. Ballistic uniformity was just fine, with the coefficient of variation (C.O.V.) AVERAGE GROUP SIZE WITH MOST ACCURATE BRAND OF AMMUNITION. Paper_Sniper: The load I am about to relay to you has been exceptionally accurate in several 223 Remington Varmint type Rifles I own. 55mm. are the Speer 180- and 220-grain softpoint flatnose (SPFN). Remington surprised everyone by legitimising the .17 by not domesticating the .17/223 cartridge, as expected, but by using the .223 case and pushing the shoulder back, therefore producing a longer neck. For the 5.56 NATO loads, with a maximum pressure of 62,350 psi, Western Powders lists 26.1 grains of A-2200 that shoots the Nosler bullet at a very quick 3,578 fps. Ive used it in the .22-250 Remington for a reduced- velocity load with 40-grain bullets to duplicate the .22 Hornet. My Uberti-made 1858 Remington .44 at 25 yards will put six balls into a 2" group from a benchrest. Just load it up with some carefully prepared handloads, shoot it, and have fun. Westerns data guide shows 45.0 grains of the powder in the Swift firing a 50-grain bullet at 4,035 fps. The factory ammo was and is very accurate ammo, this load may possible be Remington's recipe. I have weighed four brands of cases and found considerable variation (10.4 percent) from the lightest (Hornady, at 145.0 grains) and the heaviest (Winchester, at 160.1 grains). Joseph Von Benedikt is with Rafe Nielsen of Browning to take a look at a new X-Bolt series rifle. After looking at load data for the 17 Mach IV and looking at Quickload, it seems something in the burn rate of IMR 4198, Vihta Vuori N110, Alliant 2400, Alliant Reloader 7, Hodgdon Lil'Gun, Alliant Blue Dot, and IMR 4227 would meet the requirement. My 7RM did really well with H1000 with 168 and 180 HVLDs. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. 24.0g of IMR 4350 with a Rem 7 1/2 (Warning do not use a thin cup primer with the 17 Remington) 25g bullet = 4100+ Decopper your barrel frequently, use good bronze bristle brushes often and throw them away after 100 strokes. AccurateShooter.com has load data for .223 Rem, 6mmBR, .243 Win, 6.5x47 Lapua, .308 Win, 6.5-284 and 7mm cartridges, with info on brass, powders . This makes for a light recoil round that has very good long range ballistics. In the .25-06, Hornady 75-grain V-MAX bullets topped out at 3,508 fps with 56.5 grains of the powder. The M1903 was first used in combat during the Philippine-American War, and it was officially adopted by the United States as the standard infantry rifle on June 19, 1903 . For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Similar threads 17 fireball and reloader 10 bobcat93 Apr 12, 2016 Reloading Forum (All Calibers) You won't be disappointed if you can find all the components. As A-2230s name implies, its designed around the .223 Remington. HORNADY Varmint Express: smallest group 5/8"; largest fps; extreme spread 35 fps; average = 2609 fps. For my money, the best all-round bullets for the .35 Rem. can also be quite accurate. First Focal Plane vs. Second Focal Plane Scopes Explained: Which is Best? a whopping 8" at 150 yards. chosen because it has a 24" barrel, the standard length used by most Here are the Custom Mossberg 500 at the Range and Live Turkey!. Extreme velocity spread was 12 fps. 71 fps; average = 2775 fps. This is still capable of cleanly killing a fox. The .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire (.17 HMR) cartridge is based on a .22 WMR case necked down to accept .17 caliber bullets. Need your favorite loads for 17 Remington, Re: Need your favorite loads for 17 Remington, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. The 7mm Remington Magnum is capable of pushing 160-grain bullets to 3,000 and even 3,100 fps, which makes it an excellent choice for deer and antelope hunting. 22g of H322 with a 25g Berger, always use a thick cup primer in the 17 Remington: Standard load for a 17 Remington is 24g of 4320, but velocity is 4150 and you will have to de copper after 25 rounds, especially in a new barrel. After that, the die is set for head-spacing on the shoulder of the case. fun. The accuracy and integrity of the larger 30 grain ensures a better ballistic coefficient and, as such, retains more energy down-range and is better constructed to penetrate foxes yet still expand without any nasty entry wounds, so long as the range is not too long. and Shooting Online Chrony chronograph. Alliants AR-Comp, Power Pro 2000MR, and 1200-R; Vihta Vuori N133; and Accurate 2015 and LT-32 (now part of Hodgdon) are also suitable. It may seem odd that a cartridge shooting fat, heavy bullets at moderate velocities would still be popular 116 years after its introduction. When I had my Browning B78 in 6mm Remington, I used a Hornady 87 grain bullet with IMR 4350 for everything including deer even though it had no channeler. The Remington factory load of a 25-grain bullet travelling at approximately 3,900fps (from my rifle) generating 845ft/lb energy is great if you do not want to reload. claimed MV of 2650 fps and ME of 264 ft. lbs. Mag. The .172 (not .177) calibre is tiny and the barrels, cleaning rods, powder funnels as well as good bullets, all proved difficult to source. air movement in the hills and it does enlarge .17 HMR groups. High-Volume Reloading for Varminters by Graymist. difficult to compile. 70 and a sako vixen is: Rem case , cci bencrest pr., 21.2 gr. At 100 yards there is still a healthy 3,389fps velocity and 638ft/lb striking energy that is more than enough for humane despatches. accurate arms. Re: Most accurate 223/5.56 factory ammo brand When testing loads for a Sav 10FP 24" 1:9" barrel, Hornady 75gr HPBT (Moly), the same load from BH, and a handload using that bullet and 26.5gr of Ramshot Big Game shot indistinguishably and quite well. Ruger No. The 6.5 bullets have very high ballistic coefficients and sectional density for their weight. Standard Large Rifle primers are perfectly adequate for the .35 Rem., as most powder charges are in the 40- to 45-grains range. The early 1900s were an important period for cartridge development. The .17 HMR round has a blistering muzzle velocity of 2,500 fps. This rifle was There is a great deal of variation in .22 Hornet brass. Also important is to use bullets with a cannelure and to crimp the case mouth to keep the bullet from being pushed back into the case under recoil, which can raise pressures dramatically. Best powders At 100 yards, which is a realistic distance at which you are going to shoot, the velocity has bled off to 3,010fps and the energy figures have plummeted to just over 302ft/lb, which is more than half the available energy lost before it reaches the target at 100 yards. Nevertheless, there was only a .5-inch difference between the groups shot with the three powders. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. Starting and maximum charges vary slightly in the Hornady manual, but no more than to be expected from different lots of the same powders or slight differences in barrels, cases and bullets. These results speak for themselves. A form die set is required if .221 Fireball cases are used, but those lucky enough to find Remington .17 Fireball brass can simply run them through a .17 Mach IV full-length sizing die, add primer, powder and bullet, and head for the varmint fields. He was a college professor, a gifted machinist, a writer, a barrel maker, a bullet maker, a builder of rifles and an avid experimenter. Anything that travels at those speeds with such a small mass will have a small ballistic coefficient. other loads were chronographed from a Ruger 77/17VMBBZ. Learn the difference between revolvers and semi-auto pistols and what makes them different. A check of the Hodgdon Reloading Center website shows good velocities with Varget, IMR 4320, IMR 3031, H4895, and several others. Both bullets have been pretty accurate with a little load work up. is rather low, at 33,500 psi, so the case is rather lightly constructed. Ultimately we fired a total of over 80 groups and 400+ Javascript is required. The cartridge overall length (COL) is also important for proper feeding from the magazine. commodity on earth and we weren't about to waste what we had learned, If you are shooting magpies, crows or other feathered vermin then a rapidly expanding 15-grain or 18-grain Berger is just the ticket. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. The spherical powder flows easily and precisely through a powder measure. Remington noted Winchesters commercial advantage and took steps to siphon market share away from Big Red. Remington didnt have a lever action, but by 1906 it had the Model 8 semiautomatic rifle. 5. ambient air temperature varied between 55 and 80 degrees. The Berger reloading manual shows the exact same maximum powder charge weights for both. bullets farthest apart. The .35 Remingtons rim was slightly larger, at 0.460 inch, and the case was a little shorter, 1.92 inches versus 2.03 inches for the other Remington rounds. 17 REMINGTON 17 REMINGTON The following data was developed in a Sako A1 rifle. Cartridge Use & HistoryThe .17 Remington was introduced in 1971 by Remington Arms Company for their model 700 rifles.It is based on the .223 Remington case necked down to .172 in (4.37 mm), with the shoulder moved back. I tried 26 grains of Win 760 with hornady 25grain hps and got some better results with that(not that much better though only about 1.5 MOA). With the Adaptive Tactical Tac Hammer barrel on a good, tight Ruger 10/22, these results are possible at a long 100 yards. The 260 has become very popular in sniper shooting competitions. became obvious that we were also, unavoidably, testing the ammunition Just because LVR was the best powder doesnt mean there werent other good performers. His most successful wildcat, the .17 Hornet Improved, requires an RCBS die set for forming the case. The .17 caliber rimfire cartridges include the .17 M2, .17 HMR and .17 WSM. For called-in coyotes, I switch to the 30-grain Berger, but I prefer the 25-grain V-Max for longer shots. Neither the author nor Outdoor Sportsman Group assumes any liability for accidents or injury resulting from the use or misuse of this data. Uniform case lengths aid this process. Jeff has done a great job with the conversion and I finally had some time this weekend to sight in the gun and test some loads. This load shoots in all the .17 Remington's I've owned; at about 4040 fps', the advertised Remington velocity. At that pressure level with A-2460, 50-grain bullets were fired at nearly 3,600 fps from the .223, and 69-grain bullets were fired at close to 3,000 fps, again with great accuracy. LT-32, loaded in the .223, shot a five-shot group that measured .54 inch with Nosler 69-grain HPBT bullets and .73-inch groups with Hornady 40-grain V-MAX and Nosler 50-grain Ballistic Tips. Ive burned a lot of Accurate 4064 in the .22-250 and .243 Winchester. This load shot a 1.05-inch group at 100 yards, with four of the bullets in .61 inch. The idea is to set the shoulder back enough to allow easy chambering but not so much as to cause an incipient case head separation. Give a Gift These were usually 17 grain varmint hunting loads I do NOT recommend this load for any other 41 Mag revolver. If the loaded round is ejected, this can cause the bullet to be stuck in the throat. is recommended for this task. at 3,800 fps has close to the same trajectory. COL @ 1.800" snowpro440 Silver $$ Contributor Feb 12, 2016 #9 I use H4198 in my .17 Fireball and a 25gr. 2525 fps and muzzle energy (ME) of 241 ft. lbs. The Model 8 was offered in the .25, .30, .32, and .35 Remingtons. At 200 yards, the velocity has lost a further 1,000fps and is around the 2,000fps mark and energy has dropped to 133ft/lb. place at an indoor range. went on to be chambered in Remington Model 14 and 141 pump actions, the Model 81 semiautomatic, and the Model 30 bolt action. The original purpose of the belted magnum concept taken from the .300 H&H Magnum and .375 H&H Magnum, was to provide precise headspace . The Cooper Model 21 Varminter I have been using for about several years consistently squeezes five shots inside a half-inch at 100 yards with the various bullet weights. My most accurate 41 mag load still is a Lyman 410610 GC WW pushed by 21.3 grains 296 in my 41 Mag Dan Wesson 8 " heavy barrel. However, some Marlin Model 336s have been observed with very short throats that may contact the bullet when a cartridge is chambered. Hammer Bullets' 18 grain Dead Blow is another excellent nontoxic (California compliant) option milled from a single piece of copper. The lighter bullet can be boosted by 46.0 grains of LEVERevolution (LVR) to 2,316 fps, which produces a muzzle energy of 2,144 ft-lbs. The 260 Remington is essentially the old wildcated 6.5-08, a 308 necked down to the .264 bullet. The newest loading manuals, such as Speers Number 15 and Hornadys 11th edition, list loads for a bunch of new powders, so I had to give them a whirl. Twenty-five grains of RL15 then tips the magical 4,000fps limit with an average velocity of 4,175fps and 580ft/lb of energy. You need initial penetration before expansion within the vital area otherwise nasty surface wounds are all that prevail, and therefore I would stick to 20 grain or even 25 grain as a minimum for foxes (unless very close) and 15 grain to 18 grain for rabbits. were set between 9x and 12x, depending on shooter preference. V-MAX bullet at a MV of 2550 fps and ME of 245 ft. lbs. I recall wondering if close examination would have revealed several .375-inch holes the bears hide. In 1970, OBrien sold his company to Harrington & Richardson, which renamed the rifle the Model 317 Ultra Wildcat. So I'm thinking that if any of these work well for you, the others should, too. If this is the situation with the Model 336 at hand, the simple solution is to trim the cases about 0.010 inch shorter than the trim length noted earlier. All rights reserved. Ive burned several pounds of A-2700 in the .22-250 and Swift. My CZ 527 7.62x39 is a favorite for stalking marmots in the spring. staff members, including yours truly, shot groups through five Federal has created a safer, easier and more reliable way to shoot a muzzleloader. Accurates powders hung in limbo for some time, overshadowed by Alliant, Hodgdon, IMR and Winchester powders until Western bought Accurate in 2005. This powder also flows precisely through a powder measure. sierra Gameking , AOL. How to get a firearm certificate in the UK, Shotgun certificate how to get one and how to renew one, Issues with eye dominance when shooting: how to deal with them, How to choose the perfect airgun pellets for your rifle, How to choose the right cartridge for your shotgun, Country hotels offering shooting facilities. Based on reloading die sales at RCBS, Ackleys .17 Hornet Improved is still one of the most popular cartridges of its caliber among varmint shooters. Next was the .32 Winchester Special in 1902. By this same token, if the bullets jacket is too hard then controlled and predictable expansion on target can not be relied on, which it needs to be if it is to withstand the friction and heat generated when fired at hyper-velocity. Thus, the judicious reloader should not try to soup up handloads. It may be a touch too slow burning for the .22-250 still, 55-grain bullets reached slightly over 3,600 fps with groups close to .5 inch. U.S.-made A-2700 is a medium-burning, double-base spherical powder suited to the .22-250 Remington, .220 Swift and .243 Winchester. shooting benches using a Caldwell Lead Sled rifle rest. the Isaac Walton rifle range, located in the forested hills south of I prefer to zero a varmint rifle for its maximum point In addition to the soft polymer tip, the FTX has a high antimony core, and the jacket has the InterLock ring for reliable penetration and good expansion. My gun likes alot of jump to the lands. It has a 22-inch barrel with a 1:14 twist, and it wears is a Traditions 3-9X 40mm scope. Brass Mfg: Winchester. A decrease in body taper gained back some of the capacity loss, but its gross water capacity is still about one grain less than for Ackleys version. extreme spread 92 fps; average = 2595 fps. If I dropped the charge accuracy went in the dumps. One of the most economical options for a .17 HMR rifle that can still deliver hails from Brazil. The reloader can choose from a great selection of traditional and high-tech 7mm bullets - from 100 to 175 grains. It ignites easily and produces uniform velocities, even though a charge of A-5744 may occupy only a portion of a cartridge case. The only modification is a HS Varmint stock. Alternatives, getting heavy The bolt on one would not close, and though the bolt on the other rifle would close, the fit was so tight a steady diet of that ammo would eventually cause galling of the locking lugs. The brass is good quality and it's great for reloading, and the loaded ammo isn't much more expensive once fired brass, which is hard to find for the .22 Hornet. In 1987, Accurate Arms started to move away from the surplus market and began selling newly manufactured propellants. I was shooting a custom Remington 40X in .220 Swift, and out to 300 yards my friend never failed to match me shot for shot. hence this article. A 50-grain V-Max exiting the muzzle of a rifle in .223 Rem. is readily suitable for shooters to load their own ammunition, and dies, other tools, and accoutrements are available, as are bullets especially designed for the round. ballistic coefficient (BC) of this bullet at .123. The All bullets were molly coated, and the groups are 5 shots at 100 yards. The .32-40 and .38-55 blackpowder cartridges came first, as Winchester had not yet perfected harder, nickel-steel barrels for the jacketed bullets that were loaded later in smokeless-powder rounds. CCI A17: high 2813 fps; low 2742 fps; extreme spread yard velocity/energy figures for this load are 1873 fps and 132 ft. lbs. These .35 Remington rounds are loaded with Speer 180- and 220-grain SPFN bullets.
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